<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: Follow the Money? That’s Exactly What Rent-Seekers Do</title> <atom:link href="http://www.globalwarming.org/2010/01/11/follow-the-money-that%e2%80%99s-exactly-what-rent-seekers-do/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2010/01/11/follow-the-money-that%e2%80%99s-exactly-what-rent-seekers-do/</link> <description>Climate Change News &#38; Analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:44:39 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: william</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2010/01/11/follow-the-money-that%e2%80%99s-exactly-what-rent-seekers-do/comment-page-1/#comment-30961</link> <dc:creator>william</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 19 Jan 2010 07:41:24 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.openmarket.org/?p=24061#comment-30961</guid> <description>yay paul. the people proposing agw as a science have never proposed a method of testing their hypothesis. they had to know that their correlations might have no causal relation to global warming. in short at some level they had to know they were wrong. you are a far kinder person than i am. i think most of these scientists had to know in their hearts that what they have been doing is morally and ethically wrong.they were getting grants, prestige, promotions. and they sold out and lost their objectivity. there should be a reckoning and careers should be ended. william </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay paul. the people proposing agw as a science have never proposed a method of testing their hypothesis. they had to know that their correlations might have no causal relation to global warming. in short at some level they had to know they were wrong. you are a far kinder person than i am. i think most of these scientists had to know in their hearts that what they have been doing is morally and ethically wrong.they were getting grants, prestige, promotions. and they sold out and lost their objectivity. there should be a reckoning and careers should be ended. william</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Paul</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2010/01/11/follow-the-money-that%e2%80%99s-exactly-what-rent-seekers-do/comment-page-1/#comment-30915</link> <dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 14:59:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.openmarket.org/?p=24061#comment-30915</guid> <description>Ah yes the old and thoroughly debunked argument that skeptics have a ton of money which implies the poor warmers (who are outspending skeptics 1,000 to one) are not funded at all. As far as I can tell the only reason they use this augment is to discredit skeptics. Just like the name calling. It is pure nonsense and they know it. But, they keep repeating it because they think we do not. In the process of spreading doubt supporters of AGW theory and climate science has thoroughly discredited themselves. The supporters of AWG theory have violated the basic principals upon which any science must be based in order to survive as a science. It is now clearly a public relations tool of special interests that do not care what the real world data shows as long as they can support their claims from the misinformation produced by their well paid former scientists who call themselves climate scientists. Climate Science stopped being a science when they stopped releasing raw data and methods. One can make up anything if you do not have to tell how you got the information. No real science can survive without verification and skeptical analysis. Although political propaganda does nicely when they you can avoid skeptical analysis, science dies. Climate Science stopped being a science when the peer review process became subverted. When no one objects to the world&#8217;s top climate scientists changing the peer review process to avoid the publication of papers which discredit their work, it is no longer a science. Climate science stopped being a science when they did not express outrage over the criminal deletion of raw data by the premier (so called gold standard) climate lab in the world. The fact that no effort was made to recover the deleted data is also a crime. (To me that would be like destroying the Mona Lisa and replacing it with a photo copy with a mustache drawn on it and expecting no one to complain. It is insane.) No real science can survive which destroys their data and replaces it with unverifiable altered data. No mattered how explained the altered data is useless. Its only value is to support propaganda it has no value in science. It is not valid if it can&#039;t be verified by outsiders. When scientists no longer care about the integrity of the data it is no longer a science. Climate Science stopped being a science when special interests took control of the grant process and specifically the subjects for which grants will be made. If your research does not support the propaganda your funding is cut off. No incentive for the honest science there. When the results of research are predetermined by special interest groups it is not science. Climate Science stopped being a science when it began to make scary prophecies of future events which have little to no basis in history and researched data. When a scientist projects a volcano will erupt based on observed data that is one thing. But, when prophecies of doom are based on speculation and guess work with a bias towards scaring people that is not science. The fact that verification has consistently proven that the outrageous claims are seriously overstated had not even slowed the propaganda. Science should leave the prophecies to religion and propaganda to politicians. Both propaganda and religion are not science. Climate Science stopped being a science when non-scientists at the IPPC took over the job of writing their reports. Science fiction is not science. Perhaps someday the field of research called Climate Science will become a science again. I hope so. Until thne just keep this in mind. If you do not like the weather of climate waite a bit it will change. Wonder if things will get warmer or cooler. With so little valid science to base my guess on who can say? </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah yes the old and thoroughly debunked argument that skeptics have a ton of money which implies the poor warmers (who are outspending skeptics 1,000 to one) are not funded at all.</p><p>As far as I can tell the only reason they use this augment is to discredit skeptics. Just like the name calling. It is pure nonsense and they know it. But, they keep repeating it because they think we do not.</p><p>In the process of spreading doubt supporters of AGW theory and climate science has thoroughly discredited themselves. The supporters of AWG theory have violated the basic principals upon which any science must be based in order to survive as a science. It is now clearly a public relations tool of special interests that do not care what the real world data shows as long as they can support their claims from the misinformation produced by their well paid former scientists who call themselves climate scientists.</p><p>Climate Science stopped being a science when they stopped releasing raw data and methods. One can make up anything if you do not have to tell how you got the information. No real science can survive without verification and skeptical analysis. Although political propaganda does nicely when they you can avoid skeptical analysis, science dies.</p><p>Climate Science stopped being a science when the peer review process became subverted. When no one objects to the world&rsquo;s top climate scientists changing the peer review process to avoid the publication of papers which discredit their work, it is no longer a science.</p><p>Climate science stopped being a science when they did not express outrage over the criminal deletion of raw data by the premier (so called gold standard) climate lab in the world. The fact that no effort was made to recover the deleted data is also a crime. (To me that would be like destroying the Mona Lisa and replacing it with a photo copy with a mustache drawn on it and expecting no one to complain. It is insane.) No real science can survive which destroys their data and replaces it with unverifiable altered data. No mattered how explained the altered data is useless. Its only value is to support propaganda it has no value in science. It is not valid if it can&#039;t be verified by outsiders. When scientists no longer care about the integrity of the data it is no longer a science.</p><p>Climate Science stopped being a science when special interests took control of the grant process and specifically the subjects for which grants will be made. If your research does not support the propaganda your funding is cut off. No incentive for the honest science there. When the results of research are predetermined by special interest groups it is not science.</p><p>Climate Science stopped being a science when it began to make scary prophecies of future events which have little to no basis in history and researched data. When a scientist projects a volcano will erupt based on observed data that is one thing. But, when prophecies of doom are based on speculation and guess work with a bias towards scaring people that is not science. The fact that verification has consistently proven that the outrageous claims are seriously overstated had not even slowed the propaganda. Science should leave the prophecies to religion and propaganda to politicians. Both propaganda and religion are not science.</p><p>Climate Science stopped being a science when non-scientists at the IPPC took over the job of writing their reports. Science fiction is not science.</p><p>Perhaps someday the field of research called Climate Science will become a science again. I hope so. Until thne just keep this in mind. If you do not like the weather of climate waite a bit it will change. Wonder if things will get warmer or cooler. With so little valid science to base my guess on who can say?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: john drake</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2010/01/11/follow-the-money-that%e2%80%99s-exactly-what-rent-seekers-do/comment-page-1/#comment-30914</link> <dc:creator>john drake</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:31:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.openmarket.org/?p=24061#comment-30914</guid> <description>How is the fossil fuel industry less evil than the nuclear industry that has hitched itself to the other side of this controversy, with their &quot;clean&quot; alternative. Both sides have a long way to go to convince me of their standpoints. The earth, and life upon it, will certainly outlive this nonsense. She has a walk in closet full of t-shirts to prove it. The fatalist view. </description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is the fossil fuel industry less evil than the nuclear industry that has hitched itself to the other side of this controversy, with their &quot;clean&quot; alternative.</p><p>Both sides have a long way to go to convince me of their standpoints.</p><p>The earth, and life upon it, will certainly outlive this nonsense.</p><p>She has a walk in closet full of t-shirts to prove it.</p><p>The fatalist view.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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