Comments on: Another Sleazy Green TV Ad (this time, it’s from fake doctors)

By: BobRGeologist

BobRGeologist — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:06:20 +0000

Defund the EPA. These jerks are enemies of economic survival over the most trivial of perceived hazards.

By: EPA Pays American Lung Association To Run Pro-EPA Globull Warming Ads » Pirate's Cove

Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:41:45 +0000

[...] calls this “another sleazy green TV ad“. Y’all have seen this ad, [...]

By: DHM

DHM — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 17:41:23 +0000

William, could you please explain to me how a lobbyist or advocacy group receiving funds from private organizations and using them to lobby the government is somehow the moral equivalent of an activist group receiving funds from the government and then using them to lobby the government on behalf of a government organization and *against* the taxpayers who are forced to provide the funding?

By: TimInVirginia

TimInVirginia — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 16:32:15 +0000

William, the NRA’s major source of support is NOT from gun MAKERs, it is from gun OWNERS. Their books are open, ask them to show you where the bulk of their funding comes from. Gun makers don’t have nearly as much to fear from out-of-control anti-gun congress people, as gun owners do. Gun makers, after all, in the absence of a public that is allowed to purchase guns, would simply sell to those want to outlaw the guns (in private hands) in the first place – the outlaws in congress.

By: West

West — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 15:44:08 +0000

Yeah, I saw this ad, too. Who’da thunk that CO2 causes asthma? Because that is what the EPA is doing right now, expanding it’s authority so it can regulate CO2. All the other things that the EPA does to control real pooution hasn;t changed much, really. So the ALA’s desire to not ‘weaken’ the CAA is really just a smokescreen to let the EPA interpret the CAA to include CO2, to ‘avert’ Anthropogenic Global Warming and really has nothing to do with Asthma or clean air.

By: William

William — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:57:18 +0000

Environmentalist advocacy groups only go for the jugular as much as other groups, heck, if they don’t go for the jugular of anyone who is directly against the goals they advocate, then they would be a terrible advocacy group.

The ALA does have a conflict of interest, but so does everyone, do they not? The NRA gets support from gun makers, the AARP gets immense corporate and pharmaceutical support, the American Heart Association also get significant support from the pharmaceuticals, would these groups not try and defend their supporters? If you’ll forgive the pun, these groups aren’t interested in being disinterested. They all have goals and they go for the jugular to defend them

And your claim is simplistic to the point of being disingenuous…. certain pollution goes down, asthma increases, therefore no significant connection between pollution and asthma…. well cancer rates are on the rise while certain ice cream flavors are being consumed more, therefore cancer is caused by certain ice cream flavors…… both of our statements are simplified statistic that may have correlation but not necessarily causation… The specific pollutants that you listed as decreasing may not unilaterally cause asthma, but other increasing, or specifically concentrated pollutants, for example carbon dioxide from just about everything, or mercury from concrete makers…

I don’t know enough about the other topics in your post, but I do know this…. pouring smoke into the air is not good for people or the environment, just like sucking smoke into your lungs isn’t healthy for you. I believe that the EPA isn’t out for business just to get business, there is not point behind such an attack… Free market businesses try to do things the cheapest way, but often the cheapest way isn’t optimal in any way…. look at lead – it was cheap and easy to obtain, so they used it in paint and gasoline to save money…. not a good idea… nor is using asbestos to build a school. This is the main goal of the EPA, to ensure that the environment, but more importantly, the American people, aren’t on the receiving end of a business trying to cut costs by using toxic, poisonous and otherwise deadly or debilitating products. Look at China, the have very little regulators for business, and we end up with lead paint in toys for babies…. we don’t want to be like that…

By: Chuck L

Chuck L — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:41:41 +0000

The American Lung Association is off my list of charities.

By: BobRGeologist

BobRGeologist — Thu, 04 Aug 2011 02:35:44 +0000

My feelings exactly. Those jerks at EPA are messing with nature’s security blanket that is our only protection from a return of the next, Pleistocene Ice Age No. 6. Come on you dummies, as long as we have ice in our polar regions we are vulnerable. Your irrespopnsible agency richly deserves defunding. Besides you are wasting money we do not have.