Comments on: Scientists Offer New Reason to Curb GHG Emissions: Prevent Pre-Emptive Attack by Space Aliens (Updated 1:25 pm)

By: Marlo Lewis

Marlo Lewis — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:49:00 +0000

Hogan,

Yes the speculation is quite ridiculous. In addition to the points you raise, aliens are more likely to detect our presence and learn about our technology from radio waves than from examination of Earth’s atmosphere. So should we negotiate a treaty to reduce industrial country radio transmissions 5% below 1990 levels by 2008-2012 (a la Kyoto), and a successor treaty to cut global transmissions 50% below 1990 levels by 2050 (a la Copenhagen)? Hah!

Aliens advanced enough to travel at light speed or greater and wipe us out with weapons beyond our ken would not need to fear puny humans! The preemptive strike scenario is not even good science fiction.

As to the “green alien” scenario, if Klaatu’s race is so worked up about global warming’s alleged threat to Earth’s biota, then all they have to do is share their eco-friendly zero-emissions energy technology with us Earthlings. The “final solution” Klaatu comes to execute would kill far more plant and animal species than would any plausible amount of man-made global warming. Annihilation by “green aliens” is poor science fiction, too.

The premise of Independence Day — aliens want to destroy us to gain access to Earth’s natural resources — doesn’t make much sense either. What would a civilization that builds half-mile-wide, faster-than-light space craft need here? Fresh water? Timber? Gold? Oil?

Let’s suppose though that advanced aliens somehow need our resources. If global warming despoils Earth’s resources, as alarmists claim, wouldn’t that make our planet a less appealing target?

Good old Stan Lee and Jack Kirby came up with a more coherent plot in the story of Galactus, the destroyer of worlds. Galactus feeds on bio-energy. He needs lots of it — whole planets full of life to suck dry.

CO2 emissions fertilize the biosphere, so that might make Earth a more tempting morsel to Galactus. On the other hand, if global warming harms biodiversity, then Earth might become less appetitizing. Or would that just ensure that Galactus, determined not to let his meal spoil, eats us sooner rather than later?

I dunno. What is clear is that such Hollywood/Marvel Comics speculations are not science!

By: Hogan

Hogan — Sun, 21 Aug 2011 01:24:16 +0000

Aliens might detect something? From what distance might these alleged aliens be doing so? Anything farther than 100 light years would put their ‘data’ back to 1911. AND…were they to come here….even at 99% the speed of light…it would be just over 100 years before arrival.
BTW…I don’t believe any of that crap, but whomever wrote up that speeculation needs to go back to high school physics…perhaps they could explain what the energy source might be to allow traveling such distances….

By: Brian H

Brian H — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 19:28:05 +0000

Check out “Flying to Valhalla”, by Pellegrino. With the Rules for Alien Contact co-authored by Asimov.
In a nutshell, at least some, or one, predatory space-going species would consider all other such to be competitors to be destroyed. Such a species would probably set up near-C missile factories around their star, and launch at any potential rival.

Other races, not so aggressive, must consider that someone out there thinks like that. The only rational self-preservation strategy is pre-emptive: do it first. So every technological species must reluctantly be obliged to destroy all others as soon as they are detected.

That’s why there’s a Big Silence out there. Knowing the above, the only way to survive, additional setting up your own automated missile factories, is to be very quiet, and migrate to an unlikely locale around some other star, dig in, and hide.

About the missiles: a .92C shuttle-sized object would blow a hundred mile hole in the atmosphere and crust, and wipe out all advanced life. At that speed, you get to see its gamma wake at about 12X its actual distance from you. If it seems 1 light-month away, it’s actually about 4 days out.

Time enough to bend over and kiss your bippy goodbye.

By: Dr. Jim

Dr. Jim — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 18:08:17 +0000

Why would aliens want to come to this planet? Particularly to the U.S.A. with all that CO2 in the atmosphere, dying polar bears, the EPA sticking its nose into whether their saucers are polluting the air, and having to sit through seeing “An Inconvenient Truth?” If I were them, I would gamma irradiate the planet and be done with it.

By: Round Rock Electricity

Round Rock Electricity — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 16:04:24 +0000

We “could be detected by extra-terrestrial intelligence because our expansion is changing the composition of the Earth’s atmosphere, via greenhouse gas emissions…”

Holy Speculation Batman!! But wait, it gets worse!!!

“Green aliens might object to the environmental damage humans have caused…”

I am busting a gut… This has to be a SNL skit…. or straight from the Comedy Channel, right?

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By: Tege Tornvall

Tege Tornvall — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:56:42 +0000

If you don’t have problems, invent them!

By: USPatriot

USPatriot — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:21:35 +0000

Despite the US government cover up, evidence suggests that aliens regularly visit our planet for reasons not entirely explained. It does not appear that they wish us ill, in fact, evidence is to the contrary. My guess is the aliens will resist this NWO being planned for us, as I expect they wish us to live in freedom and peace, not tyranny. It is the NWO that is killing the planet with GMO foods, chemtrails of aluminum and other metals, manufactured oil spills, nuclear fallout after HAARP earthquakes, starvation, planned riots, toxic vaccines and deadly viral/bacterial strains, some of which are man made.

By: BobRGeologist

BobRGeologist — Sat, 20 Aug 2011 04:12:15 +0000

I would advise not wasting time or money messing with reducing GHG. Don’t you realize we are in a climate predisposed to 100,000 year glaciation events? The 5th (Wisconsin) glaciation melted away only a geological moment (10,000 years ago). With lots of ice still in our polar regioins we are vulnerable for another any time cosmic conditions weaken our sun or plate tectonics interrupt the flow of warmed ocean currents into the high latitudes. Get this scientific fact through your heads, only a robust greenhouse gas can prevent the Earth from becoming a permanent snowball. Our worst enemy is the EPA and its counterproductive plans to shrink the CO2 in our atmosphere, greatly increasing energy costs and starving millions in the third world.

By: Jim Guirard

Jim Guirard — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 18:30:49 +0000

GADZOOKS !! No wonder the Little Green Men are terrified about the explosive balooning of our atmospheric CO2 over the past century and a half — all the way from 1/4000th of the whole back then to an alarming, “tipping point” 1/3000th today.

Intergalactic rumor has it that the retaliatory invasion from the planet “Vert-ego” will come on December 21, 2212 — when the fraction is expected to have risen to a suicidal 1/2500th and which, by some miracle, is exactly 200 years after “time as we know it” comes to an end late next year.

In the meantime, those who wish to pay homage, atonement and carbon-footprint taxes to Gaia and her Prophets — Gore, Boxer, Browner, Hanson, Obama et al — would do well to study and to follow the detailed instructions which appear at
http://truespeak.org/contents/view/branch_carbonian_cult

JIM GUIRARD –TrueSpeak.org 703-768-0957 Justcauses@aol.com