Comments on: Awful Month for “Green” Stimulus http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/ Climate Change News & Analysis Wed, 15 May 2013 18:01:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Scot http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-62135 Scot Wed, 07 Sep 2011 01:49:22 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-62135 AnneinNYC: I read your post and the associated links you gave with some interest. Partly because it appeared that there were contradictory quotes in your post, I wanted to read the actual context and see if I misunderstood something.

The qoutes that concerned me were this:

In 2010, US Solar Industry named “fastest growing US industry” – 93,000 jobs created

Followed somewhat later by this:

“I think there is broad recognition that this program has resulted in hundreds of thousands of jobs,” Resch said.

Now you must admit that at first glance that seems like odd math, 93,000 is most certainly not “hundreds of thousands”.

In context I began to understand this better. THe links you provided are very optimistic about jobs growth though most of the focus in the various articles are Canadian jobs. Specfic information about US jobs included the following information,

In 2010, there were about 93,000 jobs in the Solar Industry which was a 100% increase from the previous year. This means that there were actually only about 46,500 jobs actually added.

In the large scheme of things that is not a very high number and certainly moves even further from the claim of “hundreds of thousands of jobs”.

The articles then go on to promote their very positive outlook by referencing some of the projects which this article, that we are both commenting on,verifies have failed or fallen prey to partisan political corruption.

While any growth in industry is certainly desirable in our current economic situation, it is still wise to be cautious that this evolving industry in particular is very expensive, for those who don’t have jobs to pay for it in the first place. And it certainly doesn’t bode well to get further stimulus money. Rather it should grow as it becomes economically feasible to do so.

I think it is admirable to try to maintain a positive view in the hopes of job creation. I also think investment in the solar industry is a positive way to grow as a nation. But I believe the article is urging caution because of economic viability.

I don’t believe it is either deceitful or naive to point out the failed episodes that are referenced here.

But thank you for trying to maintain a sense of hope maybe the solar industry can right itself.

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By: Seamus Dubh http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-62020 Seamus Dubh Fri, 02 Sep 2011 02:57:50 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-62020 “$173,000 per job.”
Now that’s a job I wouldn’t mind being hired for.

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By: Maurizio Morabito http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-62016 Maurizio Morabito Fri, 02 Sep 2011 00:15:49 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-62016 Solyndra’s gone too. How many high-profile Chapter 11′s will be needed before calling it a day?

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By: Global Warming Hoax Weekly Round-Up, Sep. 1st 2011 « The Daily Bayonet http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-61999 Global Warming Hoax Weekly Round-Up, Sep. 1st 2011 « The Daily Bayonet Thu, 01 Sep 2011 15:15:25 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-61999 [...] Solyndra created since that generous cash infusion? Oh, wait, it’s closed down. Solyndra is not the only waste of green for green [...]

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By: Green Fail: Obama Crony and Stimulus Beneficiary, Solyndra Goes Belly Up « Nice Deb http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-61973 Green Fail: Obama Crony and Stimulus Beneficiary, Solyndra Goes Belly Up « Nice Deb Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:56:36 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-61973 [...] MORE GREEN TECH SUCCESS STORIES: [...]

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By: AnneinNYC http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-61970 AnneinNYC Wed, 31 Aug 2011 18:05:56 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-61970 President Obama invested $173M in ARRA Stimulus funds in US Solar Industry in 2009.

In 2010, US Solar Industry named “fastest growing US industry” – 93,000 jobs created. Due to the successful Obama ARRA Stimulus Treasury Grant Program and Loan Guarantee Program made it easier for developers and manufacturers to finance facilities, the solar sector grew faster than ever before and generated $1 billion net export growth, adding 55,000 more jobs in 2011.
http://thinkprogress.org/romm/2011/08/29/306070/solar-exporter-america/

Solar Energy Trade Assessment 2011, a GTM Research Study:
http://www.seia.org/galleries/pdf/GTM-SEIA_U.S._Solar_Energy_Trade_Balance_2011.pdf

Solar Industry & Jobs:
“The Treasury Grant Program (TGP) is one of the primary incentives from which solar developers benefitted in 2009 and 2010. The TGP allows the owner of a commercial solar project to receive a 30 percent grant in lieu of taking the solar Investment Tax Credit (ITC). Applicants are eligible for the grant only if they start construction on projects by Dec. 31, 2010 and complete construction by Dec. 31, 2016. The Solar Energy Industries Association (SEIA) has encouraged the White House and Congress to extend the TGP start date through Dec. 31, 2012, either as it currently exists or through a direct payment mechanism.

Rhone Resch, president and CEO of SEIA, said the TGP has garnered bipartisan support and that the administration has stated it is a top priority.

“I think there is broad recognition that this program has resulted in hundreds of thousands of jobs,” Resch said. “It’s probably the highest return on a dollar by dollar basis to the taxpayer of any of the provisions created in the stimulus bill.”
http://info.ussolarinstitute.com/blog/?Tag=Solar%20Jobs

If someone is telling you that US green jobs are a non-starter, they’re either fibbing or in for a shock!

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By: Tough Month for “Green” Stimulus | Politisite http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-61946 Tough Month for “Green” Stimulus | Politisite Wed, 31 Aug 2011 00:21:18 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-61946 [...] Read the rest of the story at  Awful Month for “Green” Stimulus. [...]

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By: American Patriot http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/30/awful-month-for-%e2%80%9cgreen%e2%80%9d-stimulus/comment-page-1/#comment-61938 American Patriot Tue, 30 Aug 2011 18:54:47 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10606#comment-61938 It is an orgy out there; and it is us taxpayers who are getting screwed!

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