Comments on: Global Government: The Third Ring in the Climate Change Circus http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/12/27/global-government-the-third-ring-in-the-climate-change-circus/ Climate Change News & Analysis Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:44:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Ronhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2011/12/27/global-government-the-third-ring-in-the-climate-change-circus/comment-page-1/#comment-66831 Ron Tue, 03 Jan 2012 16:45:23 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=11964#comment-66831 "Itfitzme"'s attempt at misdirection, followed by an ad hominem attack, is typical of Leftist debate tactics. National cap and trade is nothing like New York taxi medallions, which function within a strictly defined geographical area. You can't apply that model to a national regulatory scheme, as the economists who invented cap and trade have explained, and Itfitzme should know that. But maybe he doesn't want to know. Maybe he prefers his global warming zealotry uninformed. “Itfitzme”‘s attempt at misdirection, followed by an ad hominem attack, is typical of Leftist debate tactics. National cap and trade is nothing like New York taxi medallions, which function within a strictly defined geographical area. You can’t apply that model to a national regulatory scheme, as the economists who invented cap and trade have explained, and Itfitzme should know that. But maybe he doesn’t want to know. Maybe he prefers his global warming zealotry uninformed.

]]> By: Laticia Hanlonhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2011/12/27/global-government-the-third-ring-in-the-climate-change-circus/comment-page-1/#comment-66782 Laticia Hanlon Fri, 30 Dec 2011 06:08:22 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=11964#comment-66782 Maybe we should A.) Take all of our funds out of banks and B.) Stop making payments on all debt obligation-s. If such a thing occurred I can only imagine the type of damage it would do to the major banks. Sure our personal credit would be devastated-, but like unemployme-nt at 9 percent being the new norm, perhaps a low credit score would be as well. Any thoughts?<a href="http://www.myswtorcredit.com" rel="nofollow">swtor credits</a> Maybe we should A.) Take all of our funds out of banks and B.) Stop making payments on all debt obligation-s. If such a thing occurred I can only imagine the type of damage it would do to the major banks. Sure our personal credit would be devastated-, but like unemployme-nt at 9 percent being the new norm, perhaps a low credit score would be as well. Any thoughts?swtor credits

]]> By: Rogerhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2011/12/27/global-government-the-third-ring-in-the-climate-change-circus/comment-page-1/#comment-66781 Roger Fri, 30 Dec 2011 05:36:49 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=11964#comment-66781 Great piece - man-caused global warming is a scam to help install the United Nations as the new global government, which would funnel money from countries like the United States to poorer countries ostensibly harmed by our use of fossil fuels. Never mind that the warming stopped about 10 years ago, and that our present climate is within the range of natural variation. There is nothing to suggest that we are causing any harmful warming - to the contrary, increased carbon dioxide stimulates plants to grow faster, producing significantly more food for a growing population. Don't fall for Al Gore's leftist scam. Great piece – man-caused global warming is a scam to help install the United Nations as the new global government, which would funnel money from countries like the United States to poorer countries ostensibly harmed by our use of fossil fuels. Never mind that the warming stopped about 10 years ago, and that our present climate is within the range of natural variation. There is nothing to suggest that we are causing any harmful warming – to the contrary, increased carbon dioxide stimulates plants to grow faster, producing significantly more food for a growing population. Don’t fall for Al Gore’s leftist scam.

]]> By: itfitzmehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2011/12/27/global-government-the-third-ring-in-the-climate-change-circus/comment-page-1/#comment-66728 itfitzme Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:47:07 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=11964#comment-66728 Ever since Madoff got busted, everything is now a "Ponzi scheme" or "Ponzi like". It's like fourth grader calling everyone they don't like "gay". This book is gay. My teacher is gay. The fourth grader has no clue what "gay" actually means, only that he heard his older sibling use it. The only meaning it has is "I don't like it."So, let us clarify what a "Ponzi scheme" is. "A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors"Let us clarify what "Cap and trade" is. The definition is in the name. A cap on total emissions is set. Certificates are them issued for the right to emit carbon based pollutants. The sum of emissions allowed by all of the certificates equals the total cap. These certificates are then traded on the open market, between companies, and the value of them is set by the market.This is like the medallion program for taxi cabs in New York city. The city decides how many taxis that the city can handle. Once the certificates, in this case "medallions", have been issued, they are traded on the open free market. The cap can be as high or low as works. There seems to be no shortage of taxi cabs in New York.If you believe in the free market, then you understand how Cap and Trade is an effective free market solution to managing industrial externalities.There is simply nothing about "Cap and Trade" that is ponzi like. Well, with one exception, that the author has a new word for "I don't like it." The author might just as well call it "gay". Ever since Madoff got busted, everything is now a “Ponzi scheme” or “Ponzi like”. It’s like fourth grader calling everyone they don’t like “gay”. This book is gay. My teacher is gay. The fourth grader has no clue what “gay” actually means, only that he heard his older sibling use it. The only meaning it has is “I don’t like it.”

So, let us clarify what a “Ponzi scheme” is. “A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from their own money or the money paid by subsequent investors”

Let us clarify what “Cap and trade” is. The definition is in the name. A cap on total emissions is set. Certificates are them issued for the right to emit carbon based pollutants. The sum of emissions allowed by all of the certificates equals the total cap. These certificates are then traded on the open market, between companies, and the value of them is set by the market.

This is like the medallion program for taxi cabs in New York city. The city decides how many taxis that the city can handle. Once the certificates, in this case “medallions”, have been issued, they are traded on the open free market. The cap can be as high or low as works. There seems to be no shortage of taxi cabs in New York.

If you believe in the free market, then you understand how Cap and Trade is an effective free market solution to managing industrial externalities.

There is simply nothing about “Cap and Trade” that is ponzi like. Well, with one exception, that the author has a new word for “I don’t like it.” The author might just as well call it “gay”.

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