Comments on: The Empire State Divide: What’s at Stake for the American Dream http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/ Climate Change News & Analysis Thu, 07 Feb 2013 05:41:58 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Aktonyhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67281 Aktony Thu, 26 Jan 2012 04:22:39 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67281 Dear Vera Scroggins, You must be living in a different Susquehanna County than I am. Where I live, not far from Dimock, none of the well pads are emitting smells. The water is as clean and fresh or dirty and turbid as it has always been since before drilling began. Stores are doing the best business they ever have in their history. Young people are getting high-paying jobs with the gas industry and/or getting training for the gas industry at local colleges such as Lackawanna, Keystone, and Penn State. Far from people moving out, people are moving in. Demand for housing is causing rents to rise.There are drill rigs in all directions within a mile of my house. And, aside from the temporary noise of drilling and the temporary flaring of the wells, the environment has not suffered or sustained any permanent damage or inconvenience that I have been able to detect in the last year. When the drill rigs are removed, quite honestly, you wouldn't know there are gas wells in place unless you looked for them. And gas company employees whom I've met have been courteous and respectful.I don't know whether to suggest you see an audiologist, a neurologist or what. But you definitely are not seeing, smelling, or hearing what I and my neighbors are. Wonder whether the toxins of suggestion or the possibility of lucrative litigation against the gas companies have altered your perceptions. Dear Vera Scroggins,
You must be living in a different Susquehanna County than I am. Where I live, not far from Dimock, none of the well pads are emitting smells. The water is as clean and fresh or dirty and turbid as it has always been since before drilling began. Stores are doing the best business they ever have in their history. Young people are getting high-paying jobs with the gas industry and/or getting training for the gas industry at local colleges such as Lackawanna, Keystone, and Penn State. Far from people moving out, people are moving in. Demand for housing is causing rents to rise.

There are drill rigs in all directions within a mile of my house. And, aside from the temporary noise of drilling and the temporary flaring of the wells, the environment has not suffered or sustained any permanent damage or inconvenience that I have been able to detect in the last year. When the drill rigs are removed, quite honestly, you wouldn’t know there are gas wells in place unless you looked for them. And gas company employees whom I’ve met have been courteous and respectful.

I don’t know whether to suggest you see an audiologist, a neurologist or what. But you definitely are not seeing, smelling, or hearing what I and my neighbors are. Wonder whether the toxins of suggestion or the possibility of lucrative litigation against the gas companies have altered your perceptions.

]]> By: Katehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67252 Kate Tue, 24 Jan 2012 19:58:41 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67252 OK, so I watched the Ms. Rogers from Texas talk and checked out the article. Neither source has provided information that would change my mind about gas drilling. Ms. Rogers seems to be concerned that the revenues are not as high as projected, and that there is not the quantity of gas that was predicted, which she should be happy about, if she thinks it is causing pollution where they are drillingand the wells will stop producing. Apparently Texas did their environmental impact survey after the fact. In NY the Department of Conservation has written a 1,400 page report covering just about everything...so that piece of Ms. Roger's argument is irrelevant. Sounds like Ms. Rogers has some financial and political concerns with regard to shareholders' profits and lack of export tariffs, which could eventually cause prices of natural gas to rise, despite the abundance that is mined. She could probably give this analysis of most multinational companies of our time, but again, it is a political issue.The earthquake article states that the earthquakes are not caused by the hydrofracturing, so that's good.Thanks for the information. I like to keep an open mind. So far I have found no compelling evidence to change my mind about gas drilling. OK, so I watched the Ms. Rogers from Texas talk and checked out the article. Neither source has provided information that would change my mind about gas drilling. Ms. Rogers seems to be concerned that the revenues are not as high as projected, and that there is not the quantity of gas that was predicted, which she should be happy about, if she thinks it is causing pollution where they are drillingand the wells will stop producing. Apparently Texas did their environmental impact survey after the fact. In NY the Department of Conservation has written a 1,400 page report covering just about everything…so that piece of Ms. Roger’s argument is irrelevant. Sounds like Ms. Rogers has some financial and political concerns with regard to shareholders’ profits and lack of export tariffs, which could eventually cause prices of natural gas to rise, despite the abundance that is mined. She could probably give this analysis of most multinational companies of our time, but again, it is a political issue.

The earthquake article states that the earthquakes are not caused by the hydrofracturing, so that’s good.

Thanks for the information. I like to keep an open mind. So far I have found no compelling evidence to change my mind about gas drilling.

]]> By: Katehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67251 Kate Tue, 24 Jan 2012 17:10:31 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67251 Sorry that you use Gasland as support for your argument, as it discounts your position. There are errors in Gasland and when Mr. Fox was questioned, he refused to come clean with the truth. In my life experience with sociopaths, I have come to rely upon a priceless rule: If someone lies to you about one thing, you must assume all that they say is a lie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMTc6TSjG8Q Sorry that you use Gasland as support for your argument, as it discounts your position. There are errors in Gasland and when Mr. Fox was questioned, he refused to come clean with the truth. In my life experience with sociopaths, I have come to rely upon a priceless rule: If someone lies to you about one thing, you must assume all that they say is a lie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMTc6TSjG8Q

]]> By: Video: Official Release of The Empire State Dividehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67247 Video: Official Release of The Empire State Divide Tue, 24 Jan 2012 15:31:44 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67247 [...] siblings in memory of my grandfather, Frank Bulich.The documentary can be found here. In a previous post, I wrote about the film in detail. Cancel replyLeave a CommentName *E-mail [...] [...] siblings in memory of my grandfather, Frank Bulich.The documentary can be found here. In a previous post, I wrote about the film in detail. Cancel replyLeave a CommentName *E-mail [...]

]]> By: Kimhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67234 Kim Tue, 24 Jan 2012 01:22:07 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67234 Hi The following information will anwser most of your questions; A Texan talks about drilling http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYzU4bEfJ5U Vets asses health threats Bamberger_Oswald_NS22_in_pres... Sceintific American talks about earth quakes http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=avoiding-fracking-earthquakes-expensive, this science magizine has many articles on the topic as does Science and other science magizines... Hi The following information will anwser most of your questions;
A Texan talks about drilling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYzU4bEfJ5U
Vets asses health threats Bamberger_Oswald_NS22_in_pres…
Sceintific American talks about earth quakes
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=avoiding-fracking-earthquakes-expensive, this science magizine has many articles on the topic as does Science and other science magizines…

]]> By: David Kauberhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67228 David Kauber Mon, 23 Jan 2012 23:57:14 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67228 Try going down to Dimock, Pa, and see for yourself. At last the EPA is going to supply water to people whose homesteads have been made unhealthy, ugly, unsettling.Fort Worth - Dallas, Texas is another disaster zone to anyone who once had quiet neighborhoods and who enjoyed living in their home. At one time it was safe and enjoyable and healthy to live in the neighborhood; now, not so much.The corporate take-over of lives has no meaning to people who only value the gilder. You don't have to be a Christian to know the empty spirit of those who promote and con people into this nasty business.See the film: GASLAND; also see the video of the business side of this whole scheme by one who is an economist and who lives in Texas: Deborah Rogers. Go to . Mrs. Rogers has the facts, the analysis, humor, anger, tears and she is easy to look at, also. People who are devoid of humanity will not enjoy either GASLAND nor Ms. Rogers.... no surprise there. Try going down to Dimock, Pa, and see for yourself. At last the EPA is going to supply water to people whose homesteads have been made unhealthy, ugly, unsettling.

Fort Worth – Dallas, Texas is another disaster zone to anyone who once had quiet neighborhoods and who enjoyed living in their home. At one time it was safe and enjoyable and healthy to live in the neighborhood; now, not so much.

The corporate take-over of lives has no meaning to people who only value the gilder. You don’t have to be a Christian to know the empty spirit of those who promote and con people into this nasty business.

See the film: GASLAND; also see the video of the business side of this whole scheme by one who is an economist and who lives in Texas: Deborah Rogers. Go to . Mrs. Rogers has the facts, the analysis, humor, anger, tears and she is easy to look at, also. People who are devoid of humanity will not enjoy either GASLAND nor Ms. Rogers…. no surprise there.

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]]> By: - Resourceful Earthhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67224 - Resourceful Earth Mon, 23 Jan 2012 20:40:04 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67224 [...] as the land for opportunity.   To learn more about the contents of the film, click here or here. var addedComment = function(response) { //console.log('fbComments: Caught added [...] [...] as the land for opportunity.   To learn more about the contents of the film, click here or here. var addedComment = function(response) { //console.log('fbComments: Caught added [...]

]]> By: Jackiehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67222 Jackie Mon, 23 Jan 2012 18:48:25 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67222 in memory of* my grandfather. in memory of* my grandfather.

]]> By: Katehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/01/21/the-empire-state-divide-what%e2%80%99s-at-stake-for-the-american-dream/comment-page-1/#comment-67220 Kate Mon, 23 Jan 2012 17:45:25 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=12483#comment-67220 Vera, a couple of thoughts...if the gas drilling is financially helping 20% then that is good...much better than the 0% the drilling ban is helping in NY State. Secondly, the government is not only broke, but is debt up to its eyeballs. Subsidizing is not a solution. Maybe you haven't noticed, but if it needs to be subsidized, it means it is not economically practical, or else private industry would be doing it. I think that is how the government got into so much debt...too many subsidies and too little private industry incentives.From your comments about the evil of "ripping up the planet for fossil fuels", can I assume that you have sworn them off? If so...I applaud you and value your opinion. If not, well, please don't suggest that the fossil fuels are evil, and the government should tax us to pay someone to create a "clean energy" source because it sounds good. Private industry is interested in paying us to do do the same and that is a much better deal...in the end, for 100% of us that depend upon fossil fuels for day to day life. Vera, a couple of thoughts…if the gas drilling is financially helping 20% then that is good…much better than the 0% the drilling ban is helping in NY State. Secondly, the government is not only broke, but is debt up to its eyeballs. Subsidizing is not a solution. Maybe you haven’t noticed, but if it needs to be subsidized, it means it is not economically practical, or else private industry would be doing it. I think that is how the government got into so much debt…too many subsidies and too little private industry incentives.

From your comments about the evil of “ripping up the planet for fossil fuels”, can I assume that you have sworn them off? If so…I applaud you and value your opinion. If not, well, please don’t suggest that the fossil fuels are evil, and the government should tax us to pay someone to create a “clean energy” source because it sounds good. Private industry is interested in paying us to do do the same and that is a much better deal…in the end, for 100% of us that depend upon fossil fuels for day to day life.

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