Comments on: Stolen Heartland Documents: DeSmog Blog Keeps Blowing Smoke

By: Mickey Reno

Mickey Reno — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 23:00:00 +0000

A third major distinction between Climategate and Fakegate, is that 3) the most embarrassing statements in the Climategate e-mails were actually written by the people listed as their authors. In Fakegate, the most embarrassing document was written by a lying, thieving, misrepresenting, political opponent, trying to impersonate and misrepresent his “enemies” with false and scurrilous statements.

And a fourth 4) Climategate was shunned by the media for a long time, because they didn’t want to believe their cult’s leaders could ever do anything wrong or commit scientific malpractice, whereas in this case, the FORGED document was seized upon immediately, and propagated by the Alarmist media outlets and “friendly” blogs without any hesitation or journalistic care.

Dr. Gleick (I suspect) is beginning to realize the full import and depth of his error. But others, like Richard Littlemore, Phil Plait and Black at the BBC still don’t realize the damage they’re doing to themselves, and continue digging. Mark my words, their credibility will be a long time in returning after this.

By: From Climategate to Fakegate

From Climategate to Fakegate — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 18:39:14 +0000

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By: On the Heartland Controversy

On the Heartland Controversy — Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:41:05 +0000

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By: S. Fred Singer

S. Fred Singer — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:37:37 +0000

Marlo
You are quite correct about “apples and oranges”
One cannot compare Climategate and Fakegate
For the former, see the careful compilation by Douglass and Christy at http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/12/a_climatology_conspiracy.html

Also: Thanks to Fakegate, everyone now knows that the “center of climate change denial” (NYT Feb 21, 2012) is not financed by Big Oil.
And we also learned that (what the NYT calls) “main-stream scientists” are becoming desperate as they run out of arguments to support AGW. So, it seems that vast sums have flowed from oil companies to climate alarmists, but nothing at all to Heartland.”
Read: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/the_heartland_institute_flap.html#ixzz1n1ZqNlUQ

By: Russell C

Russell C — Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:54:01 +0000

But wait, there’s more: I have written numerous online articles about the long-term smear of skeptic climate scientists, including two right here at GW.org ( http://www.globalwarming.org/author/russell-cook/ ), and the central character in them is anti-skeptic book author Ross Gelbspan. Guess who is the star blogger at Desmogblog? Ross Gelbspan.

I detail those troubling ties an how far back they go in an online guest article which appeared 2/19 here: “In Case of Heart[land] Attack, Break Glass” http://junkscience.com/2012/02/19/in-case-of-heartland-attack-break-glass/