Glaciers add and lose ice. Ecosystems change. The climate always changes, by definition; it is average. “Peer reviewed science” documents all these changes have occurred many times over the planet’s 4.5 billion year old history. If you’re suggesting something about the recent changes is a) unprecedented in earth’s history, and/or b) attributable mostly to humans burning fossil fuels, then you’ve got a ways to go before the (real) science is “in” or “settled”. And please don’t use the term “consensus”. Your “consensus” is a political term, not a scientific one.

Gleick was wrong, yes, and that doesn’t “shoot down” or “cast doubt” on “peer reviewed” “climate science”. “Climate science” as you defend it was well in doubt and being shot down long before Gleick pulled his stunt. Plenty of others were doing a fine enough job that they didn’t need any help from Gleick. In truth, that’s exactly WHY Gleick did what he did: out of frustration that the empirical evidence and plenty of “peer reviewed” science counter to his beliefs are winning in the minds of the public.

Put another way: 15 years of no warming and failure of the Kyoto process to advance to the next stage weren’t caused by the oil companies or Republicans. And Gleick and his crowd aren’t happy about it.

Desperate times call for desperate measures. It will only get worse as the empirical evidence piles up against them.

Goklany works at Interior. I’ve read “The Improving State of the World”. Excellent book. We’re living longer, eating better, more prosperous. More importantly, not part of what Goklany does at DOI.

Hansen, on the other hand, profits DIRECTLY from “teaching, speaking, and writing” (and protesting) on matters related to his “official duties”.

Conflating Goklany with Hansen, Gleick with the Climategate whistleblower, and similar comparisons are only possible in the twilight zone of eco-statism.

Why hasn’t Raul requested an investigation of Mr. Hansen?

Okay. Who is Marlo Lewis?

He looks pretty upset when confronted with CEI’s historic Exxon funding in this CNN debate with Greenpeace’s research director:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYpXoMdZqX4

Real world ——->
<—– Marlo Lewis

Thanks,
PolluterWatch (project of Greenpeace)

How about when someone with a clue released an internal memo from API that they were developing “curriculum” to cast doubt on climate change? Where is your data on that? Heartland is a bunch of pimps: they use big, corporate money to cast doubt on anything that they perceive to get in the way of their growth model.

The problem is that you don’ t like science that doesn’t fit your agenda as well. Sadly: you are as hypocritical as Heartland. Yes, Gleicik was wrong. No…it doesn’t cast doubt on peer reviewed science of many decades that show ocean acidification to glacial loss to rapidly changing ecosystems.

Why not have the same hearing in the Senate in front of the Committee on Environment and Public Works – Next Year.