<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" > <channel><title>Comments on: No Faith With Skeptics</title> <atom:link href="http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/</link> <description>Climate Change News &#38; Analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:44:39 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>By: BobRGeologist</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68824</link> <dc:creator>BobRGeologist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 08:02:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68824</guid> <description>Your computer wont accept my comments with the stupid message&quot;it looks like you have already said that.&quot; How do you expect anybody to write a scientific comment without  laying proper grounds? And you have different readers. I am really getting tired of your wasting my time. At 95 I have little to spare. Robert R. Reynolds</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your computer wont accept my comments with the stupid message&#8221;it looks like you have already said that.&#8221; How do you expect anybody to write a scientific comment without  laying proper grounds? And you have different readers. I am really getting tired<br /> of your wasting my time. At 95 I have little to spare.<br /> Robert R. Reynolds</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BobRGeologist</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68823</link> <dc:creator>BobRGeologist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:44:09 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68823</guid> <description>The climate historical approach is the only valid way I see to resolve this mess that the AGW crowd have  prostituted themselves to bad science in the search for  research $$$. They have had the gall to label us climate skeptics as deniers of the Holocast stripe when we represent over 30,000 verified credential US Scientists (Petition Project) to the US Senate not to commit us to the Kyota Protocols in 2008. Our argument was there was no empirical evidence that carbon dioxide in our atmosphere had a significient effect on world climates.  See Dr. S. Fred Singer, &quot;Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years&quot; He drives a stake through the heart of AGW</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate historical approach is the only valid way I see to resolve this mess that the AGW crowd have  prostituted themselves to bad science in the search for  research $$$. They have had the gall to label us climate skeptics as deniers of the Holocast stripe when we represent over 30,000 verified credential US Scientists (Petition Project) to the US Senate not to commit us to the Kyota Protocols in 2008. Our argument was there was no empirical evidence that carbon dioxide in our atmosphere had a significient effect on world climates.  See Dr. S. Fred Singer, &#8220;Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years&#8221; He drives a stake through the heart of AGW</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: BobRGeologist</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68822</link> <dc:creator>BobRGeologist</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 14 Mar 2012 07:41:14 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68822</guid> <description>The climate historical approach is the only valid way I see to resolve this mess that the AGW crowd have  prostituted themselves to bad science in the search for  research $$$. They have had the gall to label us climate skeptics as deniers of the Holocast stripe when we represent over 30,000 verified credential US Scientists (Petition Project) to the US Senate not to commit us to the Kyota Protocols in 2008. Our argument was there wasno empirical evidence that carbon dioxide in our atmosphere had a significient effect on world climates. We are in Interglacial #5 of cyclic 100,000 year duration Ice epochs the past 10,000 years of normal weather. See Dr. S. Fred Singer, &quot;Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years&quot; He drives a stake through the heart of AGW</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The climate historical approach is the only valid way I see to resolve this mess that the AGW crowd have  prostituted themselves to bad science in the search for  research $$$. They have had the gall to label us climate skeptics as deniers of the Holocast stripe when we represent over 30,000 verified credential US Scientists (Petition Project) to the US Senate not to commit us to the Kyota Protocols in 2008. Our argument was there wasno empirical evidence that carbon dioxide in our atmosphere had a significient effect on world climates. We are in Interglacial #5 of cyclic 100,000 year duration Ice epochs the past 10,000 years of normal weather. See Dr. S. Fred Singer, &#8220;Unstoppable Global Warming Every 1500 Years&#8221; He drives a stake through the heart of AGW</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Marlo Lewis</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68685</link> <dc:creator>Marlo Lewis</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 15:51:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68685</guid> <description>Renewable Guy, you&#039;ve got things backwards. The IPCC-affiliated scientists you call &quot;volunteers&quot; are paid professionals -- paid with our tax dollars. Government funding of science inevitably creates a conflict of interest. Scientists who don&#039;t toe an alarmist line tend not to get funded. Why? Because the grant makers -- federal agencies -- can&#039;t increase their regulatory power and budgets if researchers conclude global warming is no big deal.The real volunteers are the researchers who joined Anthony Watts&#039;s Surface Stations Project (http://surfacestations.org/) to survey 1007 out of 1221 stations in the U.S. Historical Climate Network. Up to now, Anthony has paid for the project out of his own pocket. From his Web site (http://surfacestations.org/faqs.htm):&quot;The project has minimal costs, mostly for this website and computer hosting/bandwidth and that is paid for by the designer of the project, Anthony Watts,  out of pocket. No other funding has been needed, sought, or accepted from any entity, corporation, or group. Monetary donations from interested individuals is accepted, but not from any organizations. Donations of time and expertise are however welcome at all levels, especially welcome are volunteers that can conduct site surveys.&quot;So why does Heartland propose to raise $88,000 for Anthony Watts? So that Watts can perform a public service -- create a Web site with new, reliable, easy-to-access surface station data. Quality data that would not exist but for reforms spurred by Watts&#039;s Surface Stations Project. U.S. Government data that citizens today cannot easily access or understand. From Heartland&#039;s 2012 Fund Raising Plan:&quot;Because of Watts’ past work exposing flaws in the current network of temperature stations (work that The Heartland Institute supported and promoted), the National Aeronautics and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the government agency responsible for maintaining temperature stations in the U.S., has designated a new network of higher-quality temperature stations that meet its citing specifications. Unfortunately, NOAA doesn’t widely publicize data from this new network, and puts raw data in spreadsheets buried on one of its Web sites.&quot;&quot;Anthony Watts proposes to create a new Web site devoted to accessing the new temperature data from NOAA’s web site and converting them into easy-to-understand graphs that can be easily found and understood by weathermen and the general interested public. Watts has deep expertise in Web site design generally and is well-known and highly regarded by weathermen and meteorologists everywhere. The new site will be promoted heavily at WattsUpwithThat.com.&quot;In short, what Gleick &quot;exposed&quot; is Heartland&#039;s generous effort to raise funds for another organization so that the latter can make U.S. Government climate information more accessible to the public.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Renewable Guy, you&#8217;ve got things backwards. The IPCC-affiliated scientists you call &#8220;volunteers&#8221; are paid professionals &#8212; paid with our tax dollars. Government funding of science inevitably creates a conflict of interest. Scientists who don&#8217;t toe an alarmist line tend not to get funded. Why? Because the grant makers &#8212; federal agencies &#8212; can&#8217;t increase their regulatory power and budgets if researchers conclude global warming is no big deal.</p><p>The real volunteers are the researchers who joined Anthony Watts&#8217;s Surface Stations Project (<a href="http://surfacestations.org/" rel="nofollow">http://surfacestations.org/</a>) to survey 1007 out of 1221 stations in the U.S. Historical Climate Network. Up to now, Anthony has paid for the project out of his own pocket. From his Web site (<a href="http://surfacestations.org/faqs.htm" rel="nofollow">http://surfacestations.org/faqs.htm</a>):</p><p>&#8220;The project has minimal costs, mostly for this website and computer hosting/bandwidth and that is paid for by the designer of the project, Anthony Watts,  out of pocket. No other funding has been needed, sought, or accepted from any entity, corporation, or group. Monetary donations from interested individuals is accepted, but not from any organizations. Donations of time and expertise are however welcome at all levels, especially welcome are volunteers that can conduct site surveys.&#8221;</p><p>So why does Heartland propose to raise $88,000 for Anthony Watts? So that Watts can perform a public service &#8212; create a Web site with new, reliable, easy-to-access surface station data. Quality data that would not exist but for reforms spurred by Watts&#8217;s Surface Stations Project. U.S. Government data that citizens today cannot easily access or understand. From Heartland&#8217;s 2012 Fund Raising Plan:</p><p>&#8220;Because of Watts’ past work exposing flaws in the current network of temperature stations (work that The Heartland Institute supported and promoted), the National Aeronautics and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), the government agency responsible for maintaining temperature stations in the U.S., has designated a new network of higher-quality temperature stations that meet its citing specifications. Unfortunately, NOAA doesn’t widely publicize data from this new network, and puts raw data in spreadsheets buried on one of its Web sites.&#8221;</p><p>&#8220;Anthony Watts proposes to create a new Web site devoted to accessing the new temperature data from NOAA’s web site and converting them into easy-to-understand graphs that can be easily found and understood by weathermen and the general interested public. Watts has deep expertise in Web site design generally and is well-known and highly regarded by weathermen and meteorologists everywhere. The new site will be promoted heavily at WattsUpwithThat.com.&#8221;</p><p>In short, what Gleick &#8220;exposed&#8221; is Heartland&#8217;s generous effort to raise funds for another organization so that the latter can make U.S. Government climate information more accessible to the public.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Renewable Guy</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68662</link> <dc:creator>Renewable Guy</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 02:39:13 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68662</guid> <description>Volunteer scientists come to a consensus report about the world climate and how evidence shows that the world will continue warming.In the mean time, Heartland pays people to continue doubting AGW. Anthony Watts to the tune of 88,000 this in both the supposed fake memo, but also matches up with the files emailed to Gleick.  Gleick broke the rules, and may face consequences for it, but at the same time, I am quite pleased with the end result of  Heartland being exposed like this.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Volunteer scientists come to a consensus report about the world climate and how evidence shows that the world will continue warming.</p><p>In the mean time, Heartland pays people to continue doubting AGW. Anthony Watts to the tune of 88,000 this in both the supposed fake memo, but also matches up with the files emailed to Gleick.  Gleick broke the rules, and may face consequences for it, but at the same time, I am quite pleased with the end result of  Heartland being exposed like this.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Jon</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68656</link> <dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 13:03:52 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68656</guid> <description>This is an attempt by 68&#039;s to &quot;change&quot; or make the World better.The idea is painted with environment but the rest of it is just simple old fashion socialism. Envirosocialism.All , critics, that come in their way to &quot;make the World better&quot; are treated very bad.  I first understood that when they attacked Bjorn Lomborg  and his book the skeptical environmentalist.  Strange that they can do so much bad to make the World better?Rotten?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an attempt by 68&#8242;s to &#8220;change&#8221; or make the World better.</p><p>The idea is painted with environment but the rest of it is just simple old fashion socialism. Envirosocialism.</p><p>All , critics, that come in their way to &#8220;make the World better&#8221; are treated very bad.  I first understood that when they attacked Bjorn Lomborg  and his book the skeptical environmentalist.  Strange that they can do so much bad to make the World better?</p><p>Rotten?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Bill</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/03/02/no-faith-with-skeptics/comment-page-1/#comment-68651</link> <dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 01:05:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13279#comment-68651</guid> <description>Excellent comentary</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent comentary</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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