Comments on: Obama Fuel Economy Standards Could Price Almost 7 Million Drivers out of New Car Market – NADA http://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/ Climate Change News & Analysis Wed, 12 Dec 2012 14:44:39 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: klemhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69172 klem Mon, 16 Apr 2012 22:50:51 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69172 I heard horror stories that in the cash for clunkers debacle to ensure a car was truly taken off the road, sand was poured into the engine. This supposedly was done to old Farraris, Rolls, and classic muscle cars. If true, someone should have been taken out and horse whipped for such a travesty. I heard horror stories that in the cash for clunkers debacle to ensure a car was truly taken off the road, sand was poured into the engine. This supposedly was done to old Farraris, Rolls, and classic muscle cars. If true, someone should have been taken out and horse whipped for such a travesty.

]]> By: nowsanehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69130 nowsane Sun, 15 Apr 2012 03:02:06 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69130 Let's face it, the President is no Economist. What kind of idiotic Keynesian theoretician came up with this idea? Let’s face it, the President is no Economist. What kind of idiotic Keynesian theoretician came up with this idea?

]]> By: nowsanehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69129 nowsane Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:52:16 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69129 Sean, I agree with most of what you said, but don't forget the smoothing of the bottom of the car as another area in which could be improved for wind streamlining. Sean, I agree with most of what you said, but don’t forget the smoothing of the bottom of the car as another area in which could be improved for wind streamlining.

]]> By: nowsanehttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69128 nowsane Sun, 15 Apr 2012 02:45:25 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69128 Well, so much for jumpstarting the economy, with the stimulus plan and the "Cash-For-Clunkers" project! What more insane ideas does he have? Well, so much for jumpstarting the economy, with the stimulus plan and the “Cash-For-Clunkers” project! What more insane ideas does he have?

]]> By: klemhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69106 klem Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:23:21 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69106 I've said this many times. The increase in energy costs due to subsidized wind and solar power, plus the added costs of legislated gas mileage standards will hurt low income people the most. It won't reduce our overall carbon emissions, it will simply take poor people off the roads and only richer people will have cars.I don't know why the lefty's like to kick poor people around so much but what can you do? I’ve said this many times. The increase in energy costs due to subsidized wind and solar power, plus the added costs of legislated gas mileage standards will hurt low income people the most. It won’t reduce our overall carbon emissions, it will simply take poor people off the roads and only richer people will have cars.

I don’t know why the lefty’s like to kick poor people around so much but what can you do?

]]> By: Seanhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69103 Sean Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:17:14 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69103 I've seen these types of analysis but I also have a great deal of faith in the people who manufacture things. Unlike some things, manufacturing, particularly autos, does indeed get cheaper as you do more of it. I am a harsh skeptic of much of the climate science but I also believe in efficiency because more efficiency means you can be more competitive. I've seen the horsepower of new cars go through roof over the last 15 years while the mileage has held constant. Looking ahead, I see engine sizes getting smaller and more efficient, weights of cars coming down, better aerodynamics around the grill and engine and who know, maybe side mirrors will be replaced by small cameras and video screens. I don't see autocompanies strugging to meet these mandates, even for the low end. Given the strength of global competition I expect much more efficient cars to possibly move ahead of the mandates at prices that people can afford. I’ve seen these types of analysis but I also have a great deal of faith in the people who manufacture things. Unlike some things, manufacturing, particularly autos, does indeed get cheaper as you do more of it. I am a harsh skeptic of much of the climate science but I also believe in efficiency because more efficiency means you can be more competitive. I’ve seen the horsepower of new cars go through roof over the last 15 years while the mileage has held constant. Looking ahead, I see engine sizes getting smaller and more efficient, weights of cars coming down, better aerodynamics around the grill and engine and who know, maybe side mirrors will be replaced by small cameras and video screens. I don’t see autocompanies strugging to meet these mandates, even for the low end. Given the strength of global competition I expect much more efficient cars to possibly move ahead of the mandates at prices that people can afford.

]]> By: Bill Noackhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69102 Bill Noack Fri, 13 Apr 2012 14:13:40 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69102 Marlo: The lack of media coverage of the high CAFE standards proposal is part of the Obama/media alliance. Very few ordinary people -- certainly no one in the main stream media -- have any idea of what's about to descend on the auto industry. But they will find out. Marlo: The lack of media coverage of the high CAFE standards proposal is part of the Obama/media alliance. Very few ordinary people — certainly no one in the main stream media — have any idea of what’s about to descend on the auto industry. But they will find out.

]]> By: Marlo Lewis: Obama Fuel Economy Standards Could Price Almost 7 Million Drivers out of New Car Market – NADA | JunkScience.comhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69097 Marlo Lewis: Obama Fuel Economy Standards Could Price Almost 7 Million Drivers out of New Car Market – NADA | JunkScience.com Fri, 13 Apr 2012 10:28:57 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69097 [...] Cooler Heads Share this:PrintEmailMoreStumbleUponTwitterFacebookDiggRedditLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. This entry was posted in Economics, Fuel economy. Bookmark the permalink. ← IBD: Obama Peddles Myths About High Gas Prices [...] [...] Cooler Heads Share this:PrintEmailMoreStumbleUponTwitterFacebookDiggRedditLike this:LikeBe the first to like this post. This entry was posted in Economics, Fuel economy. Bookmark the permalink. ← IBD: Obama Peddles Myths About High Gas Prices [...]

]]> By: Study: New fuel rules will cut 7M out of car market – The Detroit News | automotiveinfo.co.ukhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69096 Study: New fuel rules will cut 7M out of car market – The Detroit News | automotiveinfo.co.uk Fri, 13 Apr 2012 09:47:37 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69096 [...] Global Warming [...] [...] Global Warming [...]

]]> By: Eric Simpsonhttp://www.globalwarming.org/2012/04/12/obama-fuel-economy-standards-could-price-almost-7-million-drivers-out-of-new-car-market-nada/comment-page-1/#comment-69092 Eric Simpson Fri, 13 Apr 2012 01:59:41 +0000 http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=13828#comment-69092 Kind of on topic, here's my Real Science comment earlier on Energy Secretary Chu saying sea level is rising faster than predicted:The Little Chu Chu Who Couldn’t… The sea level isn’t rising at all, Mr. Chu. There’s been nothing, or effectively nothing, no discernable rise in sea level in 20 years, and more. Go to the beach and see for yourself. What undisguised trash, criminal baloney. The diminutive Mr. Chu, or I like Chu Chu, the Little Chu Chu Who Couldn’t, couldn’t keep gas prices from skyrocketing, couldn’t resist but to give himself an A grade for this obvious failure, couldn’t tell the truth about the sea level remaining the same, as we can all see with our own eyes. This is the little chu chu who said he’d like gas at a European $9 a gallon, but that’s an understatement for sure, as we know Chu would relish $15 or $20 a gallon. And Chu would also get ecstatic over electricity at a $2 a kilowatt hour (vs. apx 10 cents per KW hour now). $2 per KWhour?? and $20 gas? Then, as the leftists dream, we are headed back to the stone age, because at these prices a lot of people just wouldn’t bother having electricity at all, or a car. Of course, the economy would tank, incomes shriveling, jobs vanishing by the scores of millions, industrial production cratering. Civilization doomed, no exaggeration. No change in climate, though. A hungry dirty diseased violent world. These people like Chu are criminal. Kind of on topic, here’s my Real Science comment earlier on Energy Secretary Chu saying sea level is rising faster than predicted:

The Little Chu Chu Who Couldn’t…
The sea level isn’t rising at all, Mr. Chu. There’s been nothing, or effectively nothing, no discernable rise in sea level in 20 years, and more. Go to the beach and see for yourself. What undisguised trash, criminal baloney.
The diminutive Mr. Chu, or I like Chu Chu, the Little Chu Chu Who Couldn’t, couldn’t keep gas prices from skyrocketing, couldn’t resist but to give himself an A grade for this obvious failure, couldn’t tell the truth about the sea level remaining the same, as we can all see with our own eyes.
This is the little chu chu who said he’d like gas at a European $9 a gallon, but that’s an understatement for sure, as we know Chu would relish $15 or $20 a gallon. And Chu would also get ecstatic over electricity at a $2 a kilowatt hour (vs. apx 10 cents per KW hour now).
$2 per KWhour?? and $20 gas? Then, as the leftists dream, we are headed back to the stone age, because at these prices a lot of people just wouldn’t bother having electricity at all, or a car. Of course, the economy would tank, incomes shriveling, jobs vanishing by the scores of millions, industrial production cratering.
Civilization doomed, no exaggeration. No change in climate, though. A hungry dirty diseased violent world. These people like Chu are criminal.

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