<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> <rss version="2.0" xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" ><channel><title>GlobalWarming.org &#187; UK Guardian</title> <atom:link href="http://www.globalwarming.org/tag/uk-guardian/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.globalwarming.org</link> <description>Climate Change News &#38; Analysis</description> <lastBuildDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 23:02:39 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en-US</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=</generator> <item><title>Is Gov. Perry &#8216;Anti-Science&#8217;? (Updated, Sep. 14, 2011)</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/09/09/is-gov-perry-anti-science/</link> <comments>http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/09/09/is-gov-perry-anti-science/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 09 Sep 2011 20:24:08 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Marlo Lewis</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Blog]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[huffington post]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mother Jones]]></category> <category><![CDATA[patrick michaels]]></category> <category><![CDATA[presidential debates]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Richard Lindzen]]></category> <category><![CDATA[rick perry]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Roy Spencer]]></category> <category><![CDATA[UK Guardian]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10672</guid> <description><![CDATA[During this week&#8217;s GOP presidential candidates debate in California, Texas Gov. Rick Perry made a statement about global warming that Mother Jones, the Huffington Post, the UK Guardian, and others condemn as &#8220;anti-science.&#8221; Asked by moderator John Harris of Politico &#8220;which scientists&#8221; are &#8220;most credible&#8221; in questioning &#8220;the idea that human activity is behind climate change,&#8221; Perry replied: Well, I do [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="post_image_link" href="http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/09/09/is-gov-perry-anti-science/" title="Permanent link to Is Gov. Perry &#8216;Anti-Science&#8217;? (Updated, Sep. 14, 2011)"><img class="post_image alignnone" src="http://www.globalwarming.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/walk-dont-fly.jpg" width="400" height="371" alt="Post image for Is Gov. Perry &#8216;Anti-Science&#8217;? (Updated, Sep. 14, 2011)" /></a></p><p>During this week&#8217;s GOP presidential candidates debate in California, Texas Gov. Rick Perry made a statement about global warming that <em><a href="http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/09/rick-perry-happily-grabs-anti-science-brass-ring">Mother Jones</a></em>, the <em><a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/07/gop-debate-science-huntsman-perry_n_953185.html?ref=mostpopular">Huffington Post</a></em>, the <em><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2011/sep/08/rick-perry-climate-change-sceptic">UK Guardian</a></em>, and others condemn as &#8220;anti-science.&#8221; Asked by moderator John Harris of <em>Politico</em> &#8220;which scientists&#8221; are &#8220;most credible&#8221; in questioning &#8220;the idea that human activity is behind climate change,&#8221; Perry replied:</p><blockquote><p>Well, I do agree that there is – the science is – is not settled on this. The idea that we would put Americans’ economy at – at- at jeopardy based on scientific theory that’s not settled yet, to me, is just – is nonsense. I mean, it – I mean – and I tell somebody, I said, just because you have a group of scientists that have stood up and said here is the fact, Galileo got outvoted for a spell. But the fact is, to put America’s economic future in jeopardy, asking us to cut back in areas that would have monstrous economic impact on this country is not good economics and I will suggest to you is not necessarily good science. Find out what the science truly is before you start putting the American economy in jeopardy.</p></blockquote><p>The <em>UK Guardian</em> was quick to denigrate Perry&#8217;s answer:</p><blockquote><p>It&#8217;s one thing to question the economic impact and legacy of current climate policy proposals – you would expect and wish for politicians to debate this – but for a politician to question the science in this way is striking. . . .Note how he studiously ignored the moderator&#8217;s well-crafted question: who exactly are these &#8220;Galileos&#8221; that you believe have so comprehensively cast doubt on the canon of climate science? Perry couldn&#8217;t – or wouldn&#8217;t – name them.</p></blockquote><p>The <em>Guardian</em> makes a mountain out of a molehill. If Harris was so keen to know which climate scientists Perry finds most credible, he could have just restated the question. Perry was apparently more interested in making two basic points: (1) he does not view global warming as a warrant for imposing massive new regulatory burdens on the U.S. economy; (2) he is not impressed by appeals to an alleged &#8220;scientific consensus&#8221; because, after all, scientific issues not settled by counting heads.</p><p>The question Harris asked is bound to come up again and again in candidate forums, and it&#8217;s a bit of a loaded question at that. Alarmists would like us to believe that <em><strong>any</strong></em> human contribution to climate change constitutes a &#8220;planetary emergency&#8221; (<a href="http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Files.View&amp;FileStore_id=e060b5ca-6df7-495d-afde-9bb98c9b4d41">Al Gore&#8217;s</a> phrase) and, as such, justifies the imposition of cap-and-trade and other assaults on affordable energy. Hence, they would like nothing better than to trick opponents into arguing as if the case against cap-and-trade, or against EPA&#8217;s hijacking of climate policy, hinges on the implausible thesis that greenhouse gases do not have a greenhouse (warming) effect.</p><p>How then should presidential contenders respond to such questions?<span id="more-10672"></span></p><p>Here&#8217;s how I would answer Harris&#8217;s question:</p><blockquote><p>The premise of your question, If I&#8217;m not mistaken, is the notion, popularized by Al Gore, that any human contribution to climate change by definition constitutes a &#8220;planetary emergency&#8221; demanding urgent regulatory action. This is ideology, not science. The key scientific issue is not whether greenhouse gas emissions have a greenhouse effect but how sensitive Earth&#8217;s climate is to the ongoing rise in greenhouse gas concentrations. The sensitivity issue is far from being &#8220;settled.&#8221; You asked for names of credible scientists. Three who raise fundamental questions about the sensitivity assumptions driving the big, scary global warming forecasts are <a href="http://www.globalwarming.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Lindzen_Choi_ERBE_JGR_v4.pdf">Richard Lindzen</a>, <a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2011/09/06/new-paper-models-continue-to-show-too-much-recent-warming/#more-505">Patrick</a> <a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=13510">Michaels</a>, and <a href="http://www.drroyspencer.com/2011/09/a-primer-on-our-claim-that-clouds-cause-temperature-change/">Roy Spencer</a>. The debate on climate sensitivity will likely be with us for some time. At this point, all I can say is that those who assume a highly sensitive climate have a hard time explaining why there&#8217;s been <a href="http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=13510">no net global warming over the past 14 years</a>.</p><p>Much of what we hear about global warming is hype and scaremongering. If climate change is the dire peril some people claim it is, then why has there been <a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2008/05/06/slower-sea-level-rise/#more-323">no acceleration in sea-level rise over the past five decades</a>? Why did <a href="http://www.globalwarming.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Davis_EHP.pdf">heat-related mortality in the USA decline</a>, decade-by-decade, from the mid-1960s to the late 1990s? Why has there been <a href="http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/06/01/global-warming-has-no-significant-impact-on-disaster-losses-study-finds/#more-8992">no long-term increase in hurricane-related economic damages</a> once you adjust for increases in wealth, the consumer price index, and population? Why have total deaths and death rates related to extreme weather events <a href="http://www.openmarket.org/2010/08/16/primer-on-extreme-weather-mortality/">declined by 93% and 98%</a>, respectively, since the 1920s? Why has U.S. <a href="http://www.worldclimatereport.com/index.php/2011/06/13/global-food-supply-going-strong/#more-494">farm output increased dramatically</a> over the past half century?</p><p>For more than two decades, the environmental movement has been pushing an ideology that might be called Kyotoism or, alternatively, Gorethodoxy. This is the view that global warming is a catastrophe in the making from which we can save ourselves only by waging the moral equivalent of war on affordable energy. The real catastrophe would be in enacting their agenda of cap-and-trade, energy taxes, and more subsidies for companies like Solyndra. Not even a prosperous America could afford to replace coal, oil, and natural gas with wind turbines, solar panels, and biofuel. We certainly cannot afford to do so in the current economic crisis.</p></blockquote><p><strong>UPDATE (September 14, 2011): </strong></p><p>On Monday, prolific energy scholar Rob Bradley excerpted most of my blog post at Masterresource.Org in a column titled &#8220;<a href="http://www.masterresource.org/2011/09/dessler-perry-what-response/">Andrew Dressler Challenges Rick Perry: How Should Perry Respond?</a>&#8221; Dressler is a climatologist at Texas A&amp;M. </p><p>Science writer David Appell posted a comment on Bradley&#8217;s column, asserting: &#8220;It&#8217;s easy to refute Lewis.&#8221; So on Tuesday, I posted a <a href="http://www.masterresource.org/2011/09/responding-appell-climate-activis/">column</a> at Masterresource.Org responding to Appell&#8217;s comment. The column fleshes out the argument I presented above, in sound bite-sized chunks, at Globalwarming.Org.</p><p>I am happy to report that MIT physicist Richard Lindzen sent me an email outlining how he would discuss climate science within the space of a sound bite. I reproduce Dr. Lindzen&#8217;s comment below with his permission:</p><blockquote><p>Virtually all scientists working on climate do agree that there has been a fraction of a degree of warming since the middle of the 19th century, that CO2 has been increasing, and that this should contribute something to the warming. However, the crucial question is whether the contribution is large enough to be of concern, and even the presidents of the National Academy of Sciences and the Royal Society agree that this is still unknown. Indeed, even if the increase in CO2 accounted for all of the observed warming, it would not imply a dangerous sensitivity. If the models on which alarm is based are correct then man has contributed several times more warming than has been observed. Modelers skirt this issue by claiming that aerosols have hidden the difference, but this is simply the invocation of fudge factor since the aerosol impact is unknown, and each model chooses a different value.</p></blockquote><p>&nbsp;</p><p>&nbsp;</p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/09/09/is-gov-perry-anti-science/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>7</slash:comments> </item> <item><title>Scientists Offer New Reason to Curb GHG Emissions: Prevent Pre-Emptive Attack by Space Aliens (Updated 1:25 pm)</title><link>http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/19/scientists-offer-new-reason-to-curb-ghg-emissions-prevent-pre-emptive-attack-by-space-aliens/</link> <comments>http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/19/scientists-offer-new-reason-to-curb-ghg-emissions-prevent-pre-emptive-attack-by-space-aliens/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Fri, 19 Aug 2011 14:39:40 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>Marlo Lewis</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Features]]></category> <category><![CDATA[greenhouse gases]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Ian Sample]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Jennifer Connelly]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Keanu Reeves]]></category> <category><![CDATA[Mars Attacks]]></category> <category><![CDATA[space aliens]]></category> <category><![CDATA[The Day the Earth Stood Still]]></category> <category><![CDATA[UK Guardian]]></category><guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.globalwarming.org/?p=10496</guid> <description><![CDATA[No, I&#8217;m not making this up, and it&#8217;s not a prank. &#8220;A preemptive strike [by extra-terrestrials] would be particularly likely in the early phases of our expansion because a civilisation may become increasingly difficult to destroy as it continues to expand. Humanity may just now be entering the period in which its rapid civilisational expansion could [...]]]></description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a class="post_image_link" href="http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/19/scientists-offer-new-reason-to-curb-ghg-emissions-prevent-pre-emptive-attack-by-space-aliens/" title="Permanent link to Scientists Offer New Reason to Curb GHG Emissions: Prevent Pre-Emptive Attack by Space Aliens (Updated 1:25 pm)"><img class="post_image aligncenter" src="http://www.globalwarming.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/gort-2008.jpg" width="400" height="291" alt="Post image for Scientists Offer New Reason to Curb GHG Emissions: Prevent Pre-Emptive Attack by Space Aliens (Updated 1:25 pm)" /></a></p><p>No, I&#8217;m not making this up, and it&#8217;s not a prank.</p><p>&#8220;A preemptive strike [by extra-terrestrials] would be particularly likely in the early phases of our expansion because a civilisation may become increasingly difficult to destroy as it continues to expand. Humanity may just now be entering the period in which its rapid civilisational expansion could be detected by an ETI [extra-terrestrial intelligence] because our expansion is changing the composition of the Earth&#8217;s atmosphere, via greenhouse gas emissions,&#8221; write researchers from Pennsylvania State University and NASA* in a study entitled &#8220;<a href="http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1104/1104.4462.pdf">Would contact with extraterrestrials benefit or harm humanity? A scenario analysis</a>.&#8221;</p><p>Science correspondent Ian Sample reviewed the study yesterday in the <em><a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2011/aug/18/aliens-destroy-humanity-protect-civilisations">UK Guardian</a></em>. A pearl from his article:</p><blockquote><p>&#8220;Green&#8221; aliens might object to the environmental damage humans have caused on Earth and wipe us out to save the planet. &#8220;These scenarios give us reason to limit our growth and reduce our impact on global ecosystems. It would be particularly important for us to limit our emissions of greenhouse gases, since atmospheric composition can be observed from other planets,&#8221; the authors write.</p></blockquote><p>Sample shows these speculations the proper respect by posting this picture at the top of his article:</p><p><a href="http://www.globalwarming.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/A-scene-from-Mars-Attacks-007.jpg"><img class="alignnone size-medium wp-image-10497" src="http://www.globalwarming.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/A-scene-from-Mars-Attacks-007-300x180.jpg" alt="" width="300" height="180" /></a></p><p>Clearly, the IPPC climate impact assessments are too &#8220;conservative&#8221; and global warming poses a bigger threat than scientists previously predicted.</p><p>The only point I would add to Sample&#8217;s knee-slapper of a review is that the &#8220;green alien&#8221; scienario made its Hollywood debut in the 2008 remake of <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0970416/">The Day the Earth Stood Still</a>, starring Keanu Reeves.</p><p>In the original <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043456/">1951 film</a>, Klaatu and his robot Gort come to Earth to deliver an ultimatum: Mankind must end the nuclear arms race and abandon its warlike ways or Earth will be destroyed. In the remake, Klaatu and Gort come to rescue plant and animal species endangered by global warming and to exterminate mankind as punishment for our fuelish ways. Gort pulverizes our fossil-fueled industrial infrastructure and is on the verge of wiping out humanity when Klaatu, moved by the beauty and purity of heart of astrobiologist Dr. Helen Benson (Jennifer Connelly), dies instead for our sins of emission.</p><p>* <em>NASA is apparently taking some heat &#8212; or at least some good natured ribbing &#8212; for this paper. <span id="more-10496"></span>In a recent <a href="http://paleblueblog.org/post/9110304050/some-important-points-of-clarification">clarification</a>, one of the co-authors, Shawn Domagal-Goldman, states that the study &#8220;isn’t a &#8216;NASA report.&#8217; It’s not work funded by NASA, nor is it work supported by NASA in other ways.&#8221; </em></p><p><em>He elaborates: &#8220;Yes, I work at NASA. It’s also true that I work at NASA Headquarters. But I am not a civil servant … just a lowly postdoc. More importantly, this paper has nothing to do with my work there. I wasn’t funded for it, nor did I spend any of my time at work or any resources provided to me by NASA to participate in this effort.&#8221; Domagal-Goldman admits to &#8220;making a horrible mistake. It was an honest one, and a naive one… but it was a mistake nonetheless. I should not have listed my affiliation as &#8216;NASA Headquarters.&#8217; I did so because that is my current academic affiliation. But when I did so I did not realize the full implications that has.&#8221;</em></p><p><em>Lest anyone mistake his apology to NASA for a retraction, Domagal-Goldman adds: &#8221;One last thing: I stand by the analysis in the paper. Is such a scenario likely? I don’t think so. But it’s one of a myriad of possible (albeit unlikely) scenarios, and the point of the paper was to review them.&#8221;</em></p> ]]></content:encoded> <wfw:commentRss>http://www.globalwarming.org/2011/08/19/scientists-offer-new-reason-to-curb-ghg-emissions-prevent-pre-emptive-attack-by-space-aliens/feed/</wfw:commentRss> <slash:comments>10</slash:comments> </item> </channel> </rss>
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